Comments on: SAP in 6: Leading Change in the Sector http://ciopakistan.com/2008/08/sap-in-6-leading-change-in-the-sector/ CIO Pakistan, an IDG Partner publication, generates and publishes content about the local technology-savvy business and technology community Tue, 08 May 2012 10:46:23 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.4 By: Mujtaba Ahmed http://ciopakistan.com/2008/08/sap-in-6-leading-change-in-the-sector/comment-page-1/#comment-6754 Mujtaba Ahmed Tue, 22 Mar 2011 06:21:49 +0000 http://cio.com.pk/?p=34#comment-6754 Dear Sir, SAP is most popular ERP in now a days. Much more implementations are required in Pakistani companies. Regards, Mujtaba. Dear Sir,

SAP is most popular ERP in now a days.
Much more implementations are required in Pakistani companies.

Regards,
Mujtaba.

]]> By: Talking about the CIO’s Biggest Challenge: Zahid Sheikh, IT Head, National Foods | CIO Pakistan WebStudio http://ciopakistan.com/2008/08/sap-in-6-leading-change-in-the-sector/comment-page-1/#comment-4673 Talking about the CIO’s Biggest Challenge: Zahid Sheikh, IT Head, National Foods | CIO Pakistan WebStudio Wed, 21 Apr 2010 00:03:54 +0000 http://cio.com.pk/?p=34#comment-4673 [...] companies that’s got all the right ingredients. Almost a year-and-a-half ago, CIO Pakistan featured the organization for its fast track implementation of SAP. As a result, we’ve had the opportunity of following the technology-driven successes that [...] [...] companies that’s got all the right ingredients. Almost a year-and-a-half ago, CIO Pakistan featured the organization for its fast track implementation of SAP. As a result, we’ve had the opportunity of following the technology-driven successes that [...]

]]> By: Amjad http://ciopakistan.com/2008/08/sap-in-6-leading-change-in-the-sector/comment-page-1/#comment-4117 Amjad Wed, 30 Dec 2009 10:41:23 +0000 http://cio.com.pk/?p=34#comment-4117 Quote from another forum: we had a bunch of false data for use by the development team. Once we were happy with that, we took a copy of the program and ran it on our own, using the last backup copy of the real data - none of the development team were allowed to see the data we used. The final test was to set it up on a server in parallel with a production server and run it in real time with the same data being fed to both - again, the development team weren't allowed to view the data or the output. In both these last two tests all data was purged from the test systems immediately we were finished with the tests. We did find a couple of things that needed correction in the final test and changes were made and a retest done. At no time did the development people ever lay eyes on real data. By suitable data, I meant it had data of the correct types and sizes in the layouts and style in which the production side uses data - for example a database that's supposed to have name address etc has fake names and addresses, but they are laid out like real ones, as per the Data Dictionary said for that database - and do the same for the rest of the test data. To sign off on the acceptance, the company execs will probably want to see it run with live data, but that doesn't mean the developer has any need or right to watch that test or see the data used. If the execs come back and accept, the developer walks away happy, if they say it doesn't work, yet it works with the fake test data, then it's up to the company to identify why the two data sets are different and provide that information to have the problem fixed. Often, an issue at this point is not a data difference, but the data input is NOT exactly as it was specified in the project proposal at the start because someone missed out on a minor data input method. Quote End Quote from another forum:

we had a bunch of false data for use by the development team. Once we were happy with that, we took a copy of the program and ran it on our own, using the last backup copy of the real data – none of the development team were allowed to see the data we used. The final test was to set it up on a server in parallel with a production server and run it in real time with the same data being fed to both – again, the development team weren’t allowed to view the data or the output. In both these last two tests all data was purged from the test systems immediately we were finished with the tests. We did find a couple of things that needed correction in the final test and changes were made and a retest done. At no time did the development people ever lay eyes on real data.

By suitable data, I meant it had data of the correct types and sizes in the layouts and style in which the production side uses data – for example a database that’s supposed to have name address etc has fake names and addresses, but they are laid out like real ones, as per the Data Dictionary said for that database – and do the same for the rest of the test data.

To sign off on the acceptance, the company execs will probably want to see it run with live data, but that doesn’t mean the developer has any need or right to watch that test or see the data used. If the execs come back and accept, the developer walks away happy, if they say it doesn’t work, yet it works with the fake test data, then it’s up to the company to identify why the two data sets are different and provide that information to have the problem fixed. Often, an issue at this point is not a data difference, but the data input is NOT exactly as it was specified in the project proposal at the start because someone missed out on a minor data input method.

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]]> By: Rabia Garib http://ciopakistan.com/2008/08/sap-in-6-leading-change-in-the-sector/comment-page-1/#comment-4095 Rabia Garib Thu, 24 Dec 2009 07:17:49 +0000 http://cio.com.pk/?p=34#comment-4095 @Amjad - Well, the relationship a company has with a consultant is very critical. He can't just have walked in and started work on your project implementation short term. If your management is uncomfortable sharing information that will essentially drive the implementation, then there is no way the implementation will benefit your organization. Also, I'd imagine the consultant would also have to sign an NDA to be contractually bound to respect the confidentiality and sensitivity of the data you are sharing with him. If you like, I can request the National Foods team to share their methodology with you. Perhaps all that is needed is a little discussion to resolve the issue? @Amjad – Well, the relationship a company has with a consultant is very critical. He can’t just have walked in and started work on your project implementation short term. If your management is uncomfortable sharing information that will essentially drive the implementation, then there is no way the implementation will benefit your organization. Also, I’d imagine the consultant would also have to sign an NDA to be contractually bound to respect the confidentiality and sensitivity of the data you are sharing with him.

If you like, I can request the National Foods team to share their methodology with you. Perhaps all that is needed is a little discussion to resolve the issue?

]]> By: Amjad http://ciopakistan.com/2008/08/sap-in-6-leading-change-in-the-sector/comment-page-1/#comment-4091 Amjad Wed, 23 Dec 2009 17:30:35 +0000 http://cio.com.pk/?p=34#comment-4091 Our SAP Implementation Consultant is insisting on a point which is in our opinion against the privacy of the companies real time historical data. The management is not willing to permit him or any consultant to view our historical data (such as , item master, price lists, costing details etc). The management is prepared to generate test data in as much qty as may be required by the consultant. But the consultant insists that he must have superuser accesses for all three environments i.e. (Dev, QA & Production) until the very day of Go-Live . Is he justified in asking for that? Our SAP Implementation Consultant is insisting on a point which is in our opinion against the privacy of the companies real time historical data. The management is not willing to permit him or any consultant to view our historical data (such as , item master, price lists, costing details etc). The management is prepared to generate test data in as much qty as may be required by the consultant. But the consultant insists that he must have superuser accesses for all three environments i.e. (Dev, QA & Production) until the very day of Go-Live . Is he justified in asking for that?

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